I've got more stuff to add on the article about Joel. I've been thinking about what to write about him for quite some time. I've met him on a number of occasions. Since I was never in the cult, I've gotten him to talk about other things, and he is very bright and articulate. He almost seems hyperactive, which is strange in a man his age.

I have a good fairly recent photo of Joel with Carmel and their daughter Shebuah. As you might be aware, Carmel is the sister of former "Queen" Rachel: