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Just curios to know exactly where the Bromley factory was ?
Kenneth Frampton was the one who invited COG to the UK and I think maybe owned the Bromley factory(?).
As far as I understood it given it was the talk of the Jesus Family, Kenneth Frampton lost contact with his two sons who became COG members. Kenneth Frampton was the one who invited COG to the UK and I think maybe owned the Bromley factory(?). Having realised they were a cult he then invited Lonesome Stone over and the Lonesome Stone cast then got the factory as a base and COG had to go elsewhere. I just wondered if anyone knows what happened to the two sons who were presumably older teens or twenties at the time.
Someone was asking about David Hoyt here or on another forum. I don't remember where but I did stumble accross what looked like him on the internet a few years ago. He looked as if he had become a business counsellor. Can't find it now. I
I knew the family quite well. The late Mr KP Frampton was a noted Christian philanthrophist. His wife's name was Pauline. I stayed at their house in Purly, close to Bromley. Mr Frampton made his fortune in real estate. He had 3 sons, Clive, Keith and David. Keith and David joined the COG. Keith was the one who led me to Jesus in Dec 1975.
I left the COG in late 1976 after I saw the errors in their teachings, and served with OM in Belgium, and later on immigrated to Sweden. Keith (COG name "Samson") left the COG, but his wife "Ara" loved the free sex and decided to stay on. Keith went back to his parents but had a hard time fitting in to the world outside the family. As a result he attempted suicide which left him mostly blind (he can see only very little) and crippled (he can move only with the help of canes for support). He wrote to me every now and then, and the last i heard he was back in the COG/Family, living in Japan and married to a Japanese lady.
Does anybody else know anything more about this?
Hmm now I am wondering....do I know any of you? I was in the Norwood house. I am not sure of the dates now. I was living in the Norwood house in 1972 (Jesus Family not COG). Jacky - David Hoyt was around and Lonesome Stone went to Edinburgh. Ken Philpott came and made a young Christian, Paul an elder and told us he thought that would be ok......aaaarg...I would love to know more of what happened to people after - did keep in touch with Gerd and Karin for a while and saw Christian once or twice. But often wondered about "Swaff," Lym Malmberg, Sandy and others. Apologies to the COG site for hijacking a bit but guess there were some similarities and we were rescuing COG members. A lot of the people in what we were in came from you......David Hoyt was sort of living in fear of being found and to me always looked totally spaced out. He ran this leather shop in Norwood - um yeah, a cult like place rescuing people from a cult ........Kids would run away from home.......then they would somehow end up with us.....Jeremy and I did get married and divorced a few years ago in case you can figure it out who I am from that - same ol on people trying to control who you get a relationship with. (UK Jeremy not US in case there was one.)
What still gets me is that what we wanted to do was so good. It was all about being sold out for Jesus and maybe a lot of the Jesus People house mistakes were more from ignorance, but oh I still dream of living that community life style. Was a member of yet another community for 21 years though not living in it but why oh WHY do leaders get so wonky? It could all of been so good though of course the house in Norwood is gone now..demolished.
What I do remember and even worse at the next place is when you leave there is that terrible feeling of guilt and fear you have somehow lost God and waking up and looking out of the window to see if the world ended and being relieved that Jesus had not come again and left me behind in the middle of the night.