That's a tough one. Most people in the cult love it there. They feel needed. When the pain stops, they think that somethings wrong. Jman doesn't love them anymore because they're not hurting. Excuse the sarcasm.

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You see, the cult has it's benefits for certain people.
-People that subconsiously don't like the responsibiliy of life
-People that want to be dominated
-Dirty old men
-Dirty old women
-Zombies
-People that like being sick
-Socialites
-Sluts
-Public bicycles
-Emotional Masochists
-Emotional Sadists
-etc...

Of course there are some very earnest people that want to do so so so much good. They are deeply saddend by what they see in the world and in TF. They say, "Well, there's problems everywhere. At least we have the truth! It's much better in here than out there." These are the people I feel sorry for and the inoccent children who don't know any better. Soon they too with grow up and be like their parents. These are the people the valiantly defend the TF. Why, they're not lying. They really don't know what happens behind closed doors. It would be wiser for them to do a little inspection every once in a while to make sure the group is not off the wall. I doubt many of those sincere people would stay for long if they only knew.

So true, Winter
Excellent explanation.

go west young man
Try this post else where like... http://www.exfamily.org or http://www.newdaynews.com try the womens section. Becareful of those women I hear they just hit their sexual peak and they'll rip you to shreds. YEE HA!!!

Thanks for the explanation Winter.
But don't you think someone might want to reach out and help
one of those innocents who are mixed up in TF if it really is as bad as you say. I think giving someone an opportunity to get out - or at least planting a seed that there really are other options and support out here in the real world would be a really good thing to do. And with the intervention being paid for too - not a bad deal, especially since those guys are very expensive.

Winter wrote:



What is it that keeps people willfully ignorant? Why don't they raise eyebrows and ask a few questions? I don't understand their lack of curiousity about whether facts add up to the distorted explanations that TFI's leadership gives for the accusations made against them or the events that take place, e.g., Rick's murder/suicide. Such folks also lack caution in blindly trusting others rather than taking responsibility to check out the facts.

I just don't understand blind trust and obedience.

Thank you Acheick.

I've learned alot about psychology in TF. So I will try to answer this one.

I think it's fear. You see, somewhere deep down inside, subconsiously, they know what the deal is. Then someone, leaders, tell them nice stories and glamourse pictures. They choose to believe these, because it hurts to believe the truth. This is especially true for those who have given up so much for the falsehood - so much time and so much effort and so much virtue.

I hope that answers why.

Though, I will keep eyes open and ears listening for that one person who utters, "I don't know about TF." Maybe they wil appreciate the help that is offered.

another thing is if you try to ask questions, you'll get 134th-hand lies, which the person telling you believes. if you ask high up enough, you might have a GN written about you (negative stuff) and you'll get counseling, and word studies on doubts, demons, and all sorts of stuff you'd just rather avoid, you'll be labled and branded for a few years till it blows over.

there is a way to avoid that if you ask the questions, and that is to leave. its your choice once you're old enough to leave. but you see, when you leave, you are on your own in the world that they've always taught you, and which you might believe will eat you alive. and there's a lot of fear about leaving what you are familliar with, or in the case of the people born there, the only thing and lifestyle you've EVER been allowed to get to know, if you were raised right (according to TF). so not everyone asks, because to leave is a very big step in one's life, and you have to be prepared that it may come to that if you get too insistant. so you have to be sure you're going to know how to survive.

It was soooo hard for me to decide to ask anything after the 50th time i asked, and was accused of being a doubter and needing rewashing, and confession in front of the home, and united prayer against the demons of doubt, etc. because I knew i wouldn't get any answers anyway, and had never heard of anyone getting the kinds of answers we're talking about, my only option was to leave, because i wasn't convinced anymore that i was part of something #1.) legit, 2.) that was a positive influence in my life 3.) many, many other reasons, that i don't have the energy to put down here.

I was told I was being influenced by demons.

Interestingly, the grown ups paranoia of security taught me that "we" were different. I was able to see the differences and relate to other lifestyles. Hence it has not been much of a problem adjusting. Since I was a teen, I basically talked like I wasn't a "volunteer missionary." I would talk like and relate myself in lingo that would be accepted. I knew it was a stretch. I knew there was something else - something else more free.